tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post3314056709796796246..comments2023-06-24T02:38:55.310-07:00Comments on Frank Kieviet's Engineering Notebook: OpenESB under Oraclefkieviethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07479805042474878714noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-64652182799071749682011-04-20T13:21:33.701-07:002011-04-20T13:21:33.701-07:00Hello All,
The Free OpenESB Summit Los Angeles is...Hello All,<br /><br />The Free OpenESB Summit Los Angeles is May 9th, 10th <br /><br />If you have not yet registered, please do so in the next couple of days.<br /><br />http://www.logicoy.com/userfiles/US_OpenESB_summit.pdf<br /><br />or<br /><br />http://openesb.eventbrite.com/<br /><br /> <br />The Proposed Agenda:<br />- OpenESB Community introduction<br />- OpenESB Monitoring and Managament tools<br />- Breloque, SOA Governance for OpenESB (and beyond).<br />- Implementing services versioning on OpenESB/GlassFish with Breloque<br />- OpenESB transaction Consistency and guarantee of delivery <br />- OpenESB in a cluster<br />- OpenESB and Glassfish Infrastructure build out, deployment tools<br />- OpenESB v2.3, and future Roadmap discussion<br /><br />- ....<br /><br />Thank You All on behalf of Logicoy Inc.Rahulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-82663977017765096072011-03-20T10:12:57.225-07:002011-03-20T10:12:57.225-07:00Hello All,
LogiCoy is organizing second OpenESB su...Hello All,<br />LogiCoy is organizing second OpenESB summit at California. Please register and help the community.<br />The registration links are provided here:<br />http://www.logicoy.com/second-openesb-summit-organized-logicoy-9th-and-10th-may-2011Prabhu Pathakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10121484387497448508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-61131587838160582522010-10-15T11:02:16.975-07:002010-10-15T11:02:16.975-07:00You're right, your closed mind makes this a wa...You're right, your closed mind makes this a waste of time. I'll leave you to wallow in your misperceptions.The.Contrariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-3692718316679824152010-10-15T00:08:24.202-07:002010-10-15T00:08:24.202-07:00@Contrarian,
Sure you do. Odd how some people accu...@<a href="http://www.skepdic.com/contrarian.html" rel="nofollow">Contrarian</a>,<br />Sure you do. Odd how some people accuse others of the very same thing they are doing.. Why should I not be aware of any underlying motives? You are acting as if such self-awareness involves some deep revelation. Well, it does not, it is a mere localized and focussed mix of experience and some insider knowledge. <br />You ignore the statements and questions put forward, and now i have to make a big a case out of questions where the answers are more like accusations so that you again can state that it is bitter and whining. Most of the participants on the summit were in fact previously affiliated, and most of these are still working together. Also, apart from a small number of participants most came from within a 300 mile radius. If they are not affiliated because of their previous Sun partnerships or employment, then they should at least be because of the sharing of business within such a small geographical spot.<br />At any rate, trying to convince someone whose mind is already made up is a waste of anyone's time. Open Source is a business model, not an ethical framework, but it does tend to have semi-religious treats. It is both intruiging and sad to see engineers giving the benefit of the doubt to sales people just because they are involved with Open Source and not doing a background check.<br /><br />"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity." <br />-Martin Luther Kingmindless sheephttp://www.google.com/search?q=blah+blah+blahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-25993141148043826842010-10-14T15:48:59.401-07:002010-10-14T15:48:59.401-07:00Pretty sure, yes. And given you ignored my questio...Pretty sure, yes. And given you ignored my question and my points, I'm guessing you are flat out of answers and only have <i>ad hominems</i> left. Might be worth spending some time checking your motives and the purpose of your bitterness.The.Contrariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-88220479144467800542010-10-14T03:40:24.217-07:002010-10-14T03:40:24.217-07:00@Contrarian,
are you sure you aren't projectin...@<a href="http://www.skepdic.com/contrarian.html" rel="nofollow">Contrarian</a>,<br />are you sure you aren't projecting your own wants onto someone else's arguments because it doesn't fit your own agenda? The thing is that your bold and sturdy statements do not fit reality eventhough you refer to it as evidence. Isn't it a little pathetic of taking such an aggressive stance without coming up with real arguments? Look a little deeper and you may find out to what extend you're talking from between your butt cheeks, but probably you just don't have the braincells required to connect more than one dot as "This is how liberty dies.." refers to. Have a good one.mindless sheephttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_to_powernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-33957143164543932152010-10-13T13:50:35.754-07:002010-10-13T13:50:35.754-07:00And just who would those two people be? Your state...And just who would those two people be? Your statements appear to be driven by what you want to believe rather than what the evidence dictates. <br /><br />Asking around there seem to be at least 20 differently-affiliated people involved, all of whom bothered to travel to a no-charge, open event in Brussels because they had enough interest in their own future to act rather than whine. Seems you are outsider here by choice, not by the actions of others.The.Contrariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-2643717518770566412010-10-13T05:06:42.578-07:002010-10-13T05:06:42.578-07:00@Contrarian,
isn't that what "This is how...@<a href="http://www.skepdic.com/contrarian.html" rel="nofollow">Contrarian</a>,<br />isn't that what "This is how liberty dies.." refers to? That within a community of several hundreds of people two individuals pop up, speak out and act in name of the community, while they are just in it for their own agenda. That may be the liberty offered by OSS, but it surely is not liberty for the remaining other participants of the community nor the small number of end users.<br />Get involved <b>where</b>? Your comment just seems to add to the idea it's a hostile take-over covered with some smiles. Cheap way to get yourself some enterprise software indeed..mindless sheephttp://www.metrolyrics.com/manipulate-me-lyrics-dismemberment-plan.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-46628492420510434042010-10-12T07:25:32.715-07:002010-10-12T07:25:32.715-07:00Huh? In what way is liberty impaired by the commun...Huh? In what way is liberty impaired by the community members who can be bothered to do so taking things into their own hands? If you want to do something different, you should get involved rather than sitting bitterly throwing rocks from the sidelines. Put up or shut up.The.Contrariannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-29447001092186024372010-10-07T01:35:42.154-07:002010-10-07T01:35:42.154-07:00so difficult to connect the dots..
http://openes...so difficult to connect the dots.. <br /><br />http://openesb-users.794670.n2.nabble.com/OpenESB-summit-official-minute-td5609268.html<br /><br />http://webmink.com/2010/10/05/rehost-and-carry-on/<br /><br />http://www.forgerock.com/openesb-faq.htmlThis is how liberty dies..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-32248655669513186862010-06-11T12:59:26.128-07:002010-06-11T12:59:26.128-07:00I recently starting owrking on Java again after ge...I recently starting owrking on Java again after getting fed up with the 'other' development tools out there. I started using GlassFish and immediately just got on with the product. I also downloaded OpenESB and would love to use it in my work. <br /><br />I can understand Oracle has got a set of Applications/Servers and so on that they want to focus on but I think they are being a little foolish in reducing the investment in such a great technology. Anyway I would love to contribute to further development of the OpenESB project. I might not be a expert at this yet but I intend to be.<br /><br />Where do I sign up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-48371124276649490972010-05-18T07:29:26.020-07:002010-05-18T07:29:26.020-07:00I'm starting a project that consider to use Op...I'm starting a project that consider to use OpenESB, now I read your comments about this product, do you think that, today is better to resing using OpenESB and look for other options?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-61643690846974575672010-05-04T09:49:23.323-07:002010-05-04T09:49:23.323-07:00I think one thing that would really help OpenESB i...I think one thing that would really help OpenESB is if it could seamlessly integrate with JBoss and other app servers. We are just starting to look at this because we don't think Oracle is going to keep many of the enterprise level bells and whistles in Glassfish. <br /><br />The docs on getting OpenESB running in JBoss are spotty and old.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14005114297496032076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-56418094168352659702010-04-26T20:39:45.112-07:002010-04-26T20:39:45.112-07:00Re Anonymous on CAPS 6.2/JBI:
I'm sorry you&#...Re Anonymous on CAPS 6.2/JBI:<br /><br />I'm sorry you're experiencing problems with CAPS. What you should do is bring up these issues with Support ASAP. As I mentioned in my blog, nothing has changed with respect to Product Support: the whole team is still there to help you with the problems you're experiencing.fkieviethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07479805042474878714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-89681706833756286152010-04-26T19:33:14.803-07:002010-04-26T19:33:14.803-07:00we are using JCAPS JBI 6.2 and are facing massive ...we are using JCAPS JBI 6.2 and are facing massive issues. The product is very unstable. After 2-3 days suddenly components stop working and then after redeploying they work. Latest issue is with the BPEL Engine...when invoking the EJB webservice we are loosing messages because of 'BPJBI-6004: caught exception while processing message' <br /><br />Now with Oracle in the game, no great hopes. Any one faced this issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-38629526126599385952010-04-26T08:01:59.889-07:002010-04-26T08:01:59.889-07:00Re John:
You're welcome to get involved in Fu...Re John:<br /><br />You're welcome to get involved in Fuji. There are no concrete plans from anybody (at least as far as I know) to bring out the next milestone, but perhaps you can be the driver behind that. All you need to do to get started is to start a conversation on the email list on your plans/proposals. To commit code, follow the process as outlined on the OpenESB web site.<br /><br />Best,<br />Frankfkieviethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07479805042474878714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-59200044108083026622010-04-26T04:41:54.631-07:002010-04-26T04:41:54.631-07:00Hello - on the Fuji front - it seems like the proj...Hello - on the Fuji front - it seems like the project was so close to completion, it's a real shame not to finish it off. I haven't got millions of hours to spare, but I'd like to help out in any way I could - coding/testing/etc - so what do I do to get involved?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10249328419551811830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-86106755193690071922010-04-22T20:19:20.151-07:002010-04-22T20:19:20.151-07:00Re Alessandro:
About Fuji: there are no plans for...Re Alessandro:<br /><br />About Fuji: there are no plans for picking up that effort on the Oracle side, and none in the community at the moment. My hope is still that a plan for that will be created in the community though.fkieviethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07479805042474878714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-33822062724771513372010-04-22T18:17:40.881-07:002010-04-22T18:17:40.881-07:00I'm new to ESB midleware, new to GlassFish, bu...I'm new to ESB midleware, new to GlassFish, but have been working with jboss since version 3.x. I've fed up with JBoss management, they are not transparent and lazy at contributing fixes to the community version. <br /><br />Then I was looking for other open source initiatives, and found GlassFish V3 a great midleware, still full of bugs, but it seems that 3.0.1 is being cooked very nicely.<br /><br />Now I'm studying SOA very hard and found out I'll need a opensource ESB midleware to play with. I hope OpenESB could fill my needs, but it feels that fuji is a dying project, I tried out some builds, but most of them doesn't even boot. <br /><br />Sincerely I hope I'll have time to spend on OpenESB mailing lists, and contribute some way.<br /><br />Good luck for everybody in OpenESB Bus !!!<br /><br />AlessandroAlessandro Oliveirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04571881418041196775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-11657855197089108642010-04-22T10:10:58.616-07:002010-04-22T10:10:58.616-07:00Re pilgr:
Thanks for translating. I would definit...Re pilgr:<br /><br />Thanks for translating. I would definitely not be able to do that! ;)<br /><br />I don't have any numbers for adoption at different geos. But I did take a look at web site visits to the OpenESB web site as gathered in Google Analytics. Russia accounts for 2.5% and Ukraine for 0.6%. Website traffic of course may not be a good metric for usage, but perhaps it gives a rough idea. For comparison: India is 6.7% and the US is 25%.fkieviethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07479805042474878714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-73059285708415809882010-04-22T10:04:13.530-07:002010-04-22T10:04:13.530-07:00Re Paul Peters:
About JavaCAPS: the SOA Suite is ...Re Paul Peters:<br /><br />About JavaCAPS: the SOA Suite is the strategic product, so the level of investment of JavaCAPS is gradually reduced. This reduction is much more gradual than with OpenESB. CAPS customers have nothing to worry about: CAPS will be supported for a long time to come (see Oracle web site for dates), and you can be sure that a migration to the SOA Suite will be researched and worked on extensively.<br /><br />About GlassFish ESB 3.1: there are no plans for that at the moment. My hope is that a plan for that will be created in the community.fkieviethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07479805042474878714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-76639556058925863542010-04-22T03:17:03.093-07:002010-04-22T03:17:03.093-07:00I have translated this article on russian. It'...I have translated this article on russian. It's available on <a href="http://pilgr.name/openesb-vo-vlasti-oracle/" rel="nofollow">my blog</a>.<br /><br />Do you known, how many users GlassFish ESB from Russia or Ukraine? In percent.<br /><br />Thanx.<br /><br />Вольный перевод этой записи на русском языке доступен по <a href="http://pilgr.name/openesb-vo-vlasti-oracle/" rel="nofollow">этому</a> адресу.pilgrhttp://pilgr.namenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-89902242912864232762010-04-22T02:58:07.972-07:002010-04-22T02:58:07.972-07:00Great post, very hopeful and a natural course of e...Great post, very hopeful and a natural course of events. Couple of questions though.. What about JavaCAPS ? And how about GlassFish ESB 3.1 ?Paul Petersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6643071316318130698.post-12536262574635983652010-04-21T22:49:29.199-07:002010-04-21T22:49:29.199-07:00Thanks for providing us with this update. I'm ...Thanks for providing us with this update. I'm highlighting this post on the front page of java.net for the benefit of the OpenESB community.Kevin Farnhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05401078360028944325noreply@blogger.com